Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

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On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
<devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > I did a check on some.. I only downloaded 3 isos so this isn't a complete
> > set.
>
> I think trying to track down 11 to 16 years of creeping bloat now is pretty
> much a lost cause, but one thing I notice:
>
> > The 20 largest packages on 33 is:
> [snip]
> > 47955205 qt5-qtwebkit
> > 60158710 webkit2gtk3
> [snip]
> > 165482197 qt5-qtwebengine
> [snip]
> > 271515808 firefox
>
> Having 4 different web engines on the Spin definitely does not help.
> qt5-qtwebengine is the one that logically should be there, the others are
> bloat.
>
> Of these, Firefox is the largest and even overall the second largest package
> on the Spin (and that does not even include the size of the separate
> firefox-langpacks package that should be added to the Firefox size). It is
> entirely unnecessary on the KDE Spin because we already have Falkon:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1920298
>
> webkit2gtk3 was probably dragged in by the Anaconda → Yelp → WebKitGTK
> dependency chain. I blame Anaconda for that dependency bloat.
>
> (Of course, the Anaconda web UI will make the situation even worse there, in
> that one of the above will become required by Anaconda to even just display
> its UI. I think switching to Calamares should be seriously considered at
> least for the KDE Spin.)
>
> As for qt5-qtwebkit, I am not sure what dragged this in on F33. We have been
> trying to get rid of QtWebKit uses. I do not know yet what dragged this in
> on F33 and whether that has been fixed since.
>

FYI, if the GTK-based Anaconda UI goes away, the KDE variants probably
ship a thin QtWebEngine wrapper or use Firefox instead for the
web-based UI. No reason to depend on WebKitGTK for this.




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