Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 9:13 AM Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Am 28.12.2022 um 13:34 schrieb Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx>:
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> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 7:25 AM Frank Crawford <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> I'd also note that this has always been configurable, it is just now
> >> suggesting a different value from the default.
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> > I would also suggest that if you're shutting down/rebooting a server,
> > then you really want that to be done sooner rather than later, so
> > stuff getting killed as it shuts down if it doesn't do it normally
> > after SIGTERM is probably fine, because they're likely hung.
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> > Waiting a half hour for a system to reboot is not acceptable.
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> Indeed, but it is not acceptable because the configuration of the timeout is too long, but because there is probably something earnestly going wrong. And as a server admin, I would like to decide myself to wait patiently and hope, to evaluate the issue, or to pull the plug. I don't want to leave that to a stupid timeout.
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> > 15 or 30 seconds is probably fine, even for servers, because of the
> > nature of how systemd processes this timeout. It's per service being
> > shut down, rather than a global timeout.
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> Yeah, *probably* fine, maybe not. We don’t know, just guess. And as the saying goes: better safe than sorry.
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> And the 2 mins are empirically obviously a safe solution.
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Is it? If the end result is the same, it doesn't matter whether it's
30 seconds or 2 minutes.



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