Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Lennart Poettering
<mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mi, 21.12.22 07:40, Neal Gompa (ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>
> > > And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to
> > > firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for
> > > the journal.  Luckily this is rarely a problem in practice because /boot
> > > is rarely written to.
> >
> > We could just make those read-only from the bootloader side then. I
> > have /boot on btrfs, which grub/efifs doesn't support writing to at
> > all anyway. Write grubenv settings into the BIOS boot partition or ESP
> > rather than /boot.
>
> The ESP is more important for booting than /boot. It's a bit weird you
> are fun with writes to the former, but have issues with the latter.
>
> Generally: boot counting/assement/fallback data is best attached to
> the resources it's supposed to cover, to make rotating/vacuuming of
> that data obvious and robust. Otherwise if you remove a boot entry you
> need to find the matching data at a completely different place and
> remove that too, which is quite fragile.
>
> sd-boot implements boot counting by stashing the counter inside the
> UKI (or bootspec type #1 conf file) file name, so that the counter is
> impossible to ever get lost, pile up or so.
>

Because the ESP is intended to be shared, and these days /boot is not.
Unshared boot content should not be in a shared space.

We can only really have one boot manager, especially with how broken
multiple ESPs on a system are.


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