On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 00:12 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 11:55 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 22:41 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:29 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 17:34 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 5:31 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I think it's important to bring ImageMagick 7 to Fedora, and it > > > > should > > > > have been done a long time ago . > > > > The proposal now is to keep ImageMagick 6 and make a new > > > > package > > > > with > > > > ImageMagick 7 , when we have all applications use only > > > > ImageMagick > > > > 7, > > > > we move the sources from ImageMagick7 to ImageMagick > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150206 > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't the correct way to handle this be to create an > > > > ImageMagick6 compat package and update the main package to > > > > version > > > > 7? > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case, I don't think is a good idea, mainly because will > > > > give a lot more work and even so could break things, I think we > > > > not > > > > want change ImageMagick name, specially in epel 8 and 9, like > > > > for > > > > example python and python3 case, maybe for epel 10 we could > > > > have > > > > ImageMagick6 compat , IMO. > > > > > > > > > > But that change has to happen *somewhere*. Fedora is it. If you > > > don't > > > do it now, then we'll *never* get to do it. > > > > > > And one of the purposes of Fedora is to be "First" and do > > > "Features". > > > Make a Fedora Linux 38 Change to do it if you must. > > > > > > But the approach you're going for is not good, because it doesn't > > > drive us to move things forward. There's usually only a drive to > > > upgrade when someone creates a forcing function for it. > > > > > > > Sometimes forcing moving forward can be a huge mistake, IMO. > > In this case we also want bring IM-7 to epel(s) quickly. After > > things > > are stabilized, we may think in "forcing" ImageMagick-7. > > > > No, we don't. We want to only bring things to EPEL once they're good > in Fedora. and ImageMagick-7 isn't good for epel ? what is the point here ? > > > BTW we already try upgrade to Imagemagick-7 in Fedora 26 / 27 and > > didn't went well > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=ImageMagick&releases=F27&releases=F26 > > > > That was not done properly. It wasn't done as a proper upgrade in > Rawhide. There was no effort done to reconcile all the reverse > dependencies, and there was no announcement of the soname bump. That > was why it was reverted. > > Once it's good and done in Fedora, we can also announce an upgrade > for > EPEL and introduce a compat package for IM6 at the same time. Those > kinds of > things are not a problem to do there if well-coordinated with the > EPEL > Steering Committee. As I'm trying explain, ImageMagick is not a package with few dependencies, we have php, perl extensions etc for example and what you are proposing will break in a lot of places including third-party repos and I won't have time to respond it in time , we need a more smooth transaction (IMO) . > > > > > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
