Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

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On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 11:55 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 22:41 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:29 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 17:34 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 5:31 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think it's important to bring ImageMagick 7 to Fedora, and it
> > > should
> > > have been done a long time ago .
> > > The proposal now is to keep ImageMagick 6 and make a new package
> > > with
> > > ImageMagick 7 , when we have all applications use only ImageMagick
> > > 7,
> > > we move the sources from ImageMagick7 to ImageMagick
> > >
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150206
> > >
> > >
> > > Wouldn't the correct way to handle this be to create an
> > > ImageMagick6 compat package and update the main package to version
> > > 7?
> > >
> > >
> > > In this case, I don't think is a good idea, mainly because will
> > > give a lot more work and even so could break things, I think we not
> > > want change ImageMagick name, specially in epel 8 and 9, like for
> > > example python and python3 case, maybe for epel 10 we could have
> > > ImageMagick6 compat , IMO.
> > >
> >
> > But that change has to happen *somewhere*. Fedora is it. If you don't
> > do it now, then we'll *never* get to do it.
> >
> > And one of the purposes of Fedora is to be "First" and do "Features".
> > Make a Fedora Linux 38 Change to do it if you must.
> >
> > But the approach you're going for is not good, because it doesn't
> > drive us to move things forward. There's usually only a drive to
> > upgrade when someone creates a forcing function for it.
> >
>
> Sometimes forcing moving forward can be a huge mistake, IMO.
> In this case we also want bring IM-7 to epel(s) quickly. After things
> are stabilized, we may think in "forcing" ImageMagick-7.
>

No, we don't. We want to only bring things to EPEL once they're good in Fedora.

> BTW we already try upgrade to Imagemagick-7 in Fedora 26 / 27 and
> didn't went well
>
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=ImageMagick&releases=F27&releases=F26
>

That was not done properly. It wasn't done as a proper upgrade in
Rawhide. There was no effort done to reconcile all the reverse
dependencies, and there was no announcement of the soname bump. That
was why it was reverted.

Once it's good and done in Fedora, we can also announce an upgrade for
EPEL and introduce a compat package for IM6 at the same time. Those kinds of
things are not a problem to do there if well-coordinated with the EPEL
Steering Committee.







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