On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 12:43 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 11/21/22 09:23, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 19:24 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > On 11/20/22 17:40, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 17:22 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > > > On 11/20/22 07:24, Bojan Smojver via devel wrote: > > > > > > Now that nss 3.85 has been built, I thought I'd have a go at building > > > > > > FF 107.0, given that's been out for a few days and original builds > > > > > > failed in koji, because nss was too old at the time. > > > > > > > > > > Has switching to bundled NSS been considered? For browsers anything > > > > > that holds up an update is very, *very* bad. > > > > > > > > Casually handling crypto libraries is very, *very* worse. > > > > > > Has there ever been a case where Fedora’s NSS was not vulnerable to > > > something that the bundled NSS was vulnerable to? To be clear, I am > > > referring to the NSS shipped by Mozilla as a part of Firefox. > > > Another option would be to ensure that NSS is promptly updated. > > > > NSS is generally updated in order to release Firefox, I am not aware of > > a chronic issue here. > > > > We compile NSS differently than what Mozilla does, for example we use > > the Fedora OS trust anchors, and the Fedora Crypto-Policies, etc.. it > > is not just about vulnerabilities, system integration matters too. > > > > But we *have* released patches for security vulnerabilities in NSS w/o > > requiring also a full recompile and retesting of Firefox. > > In that case, can NSS be pushed out to stable immediately, along with > the new Firefox? Several days is too long a delay already. One factor that sometimes holds things up is that the involved maintainers never bundle updates properly. When there is a new Firefox build and a new nss build that should go together, these should be bundled in a single update, but they almost never are. This sometimes causes the openQA tests to fail (if there's a hard version dependency involved), which causes one or other update to be gated. If they were properly bundled, this would not happen. I have been leaving comments on Firefox updates for years asking for this to be addressed, but it never happens. Most recent example: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-1f8312716f It does seem like there is a weirdly low level of co-operation between nss and firefox maintainers, given that firefox is by a long way the most significant and intertwined user of nss. It feels like there is scope for improvement there. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
