Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

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Once upon a time, Vitaly Zaitsev <vitaly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> On 19/10/2022 09:33, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >Why are they insecure? This is public open data, not banking data,
> >where the data being downloaded is verifiable by the rpm signatures
> >and signing keys.
> 
> ISPs or anyone on the the same network can view, intercept or even
> modify HTTP/rsync traffic.

And so?

The mirror network is essentially already an untrusted man in the middle
between the Fedora build servers and you.  Most mirror servers are
hosted by large organizations (companies and schools with extra
bandwidth) - in many cases, they ARE the ISPs.  At a previous ISP job, I
ran a mirror and marked it as "preferred" for my networks, which meant
all my customers used my mirror by default.

Anybody can set that up, with pretty minimal verification.  You are
trying to insist on a trust layer for an already-untrusted system.

-- 
Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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