On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:48 AM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > Would you be willing to pay for that feature? > > Probably not, because at that point, it would probably be cheaper to just > set up a mirror or even a full-fledged build system on a VPS somewhere. Or > even to use OBS, though I do not know what their retention policies for old > repositories are (i.e., whether they are any better or even worse). > > What makes Copr so interesting is that it is offered at no cost to all > Fedora contributors. But it has always been treated as an unloved stepchild > by Red Hat and has never received the kind of resources, e.g., OBS has. > Though it is still better than what smaller distributions like Arch are able > to offer, where, e.g., the AUR only allows publishing the source PKGBUILD > files and no binaries at all. > Red Hat has not truly invested in Fedora build infrastructure software in a long time. It's pretty clear they don't consider it valuable enough to have a significant team supporting it like SUSE does for their stuff. Don't get me wrong, the folks who work on Koji and Copr are great, but even they'll admit that they're woefully underfunded. The compose tooling, PDC, etc. are also examples of this problem. Even in a world where I would be *able* to pay for it (and there's plenty of commercial evidence that such a service would be something people would pay for), I just don't think it would stick. This is also part of the reason why I'm extremely wary about their desire to hotwire Fedora image builds into the Red Hat hosted image builder infrastructure. I've seen this story repeat so many times now that I distrust new efforts from them on this front now, because we always wind up holding the wet paper bag in the end. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
