Re: proposal idea: EOL notifications

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 6:29 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 06:34:16PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Dne 08. 07. 22 v 4:59 Stewart Smith via devel napsal(a):
> > > > Another - what do we do about, e.g., Fedora IoT and Fedora CoreOS,
> > > > which have their own somewhat different release/life cycles? What about
> > > > module lifecycles? What is it about*lifecycles*  that's important,
> > > > anyway? Don't we maybe want to just have a sort of generic system for
> > > > "important events"?
> > > I view it as a mechanism to communicate well in advance of when someone
> > > is going to have to do work.
> > >
> > > Fedora is the simple case: every 6-12 months you're going to have to
> > > upgrade the version of the OS.
> >
> > And when implementing this for Fedora, can you bear RHEL in mind too? Because it has several levels of EOL
> >
> > https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/red-hat-enterprise-linux-rhel
>
> RHEL is indeed more complicated. But RHEL already has its own subscription
> manager that knows when and to what extent a given installation has support.
> The two main ways to support SUPPORT_END= on such systems:
>
> 1. let the subscription management system fill out a date in os-release,
>    based on the information it has. If appropriate, the date can be adjusted
>    over time.

I'm not aware of any plans to do that.

> 2. leave SUPPORT_END= unset, so that the existing mechanisms are used.
>
> Option 1. has the advantage that over time generic tools might learn
> to look at SUPPORT_END=. But if SUPPORT_END= is not a good fit for some
> reason, existing mechanisms can continue to be used, i.e. option 2.

Right.

> Which way is better will depend on the installation type and other details.
>
> I don't think we should try encode multiple levels of support in os-release.
> That file by design is simple: simple to write and simple to read and simple
> to interpret. More complicated state can stay external and be a source
> for the simplified information in os-release.

I agree.  And RHEL's lifecycle(s) are fairly complex, depending on
exactly what you want to know and what your usage scenarios are.  I
don't think SUPPORT_END fits there very well.

josh
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