On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:21 PM Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mi, 06.07.22 18:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > I'm aware of the release schedule ;) > > The date would only need to be set (at most) twice: > > - once before the release of Fn > > - after Fn+2 is released and Fn has 1 month left > > (only if Fn+2 slipped) Or you could just move to fixed-time lifecycles and avoid that entirely. As you said below, what's a week or two? :) > > And it's true that you will not get the update of the date if no > > updates are installed… But if you don't update ever, does it really > > matter that you have the EOL date off by a week or two? This date is > > meaningful for systems that are _maintained_, i.e. at least get > > updates every few weeks. People update systems in odd ways, not always wholesale. Think of the common case of "I want CVE fixes only". There is almost never a CVE fix for fedora-release, so using that filter will mean they continue to have stale info. Anyway, as I said earlier, I don't think these corner cases are big deals. We actually already did the overall idea in a different way long ago. There used to be a package called "system-autodeath" that would basically start logging impending EOL a week before it happened, then daily after it happened: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=732174 I can't remember why it was retired to be honest. > Maybe our os-release docs should mention that this is the latest > *known* support date, and suggest that people refresh the OS to newest > set of relevant package to get newer info. Reasonable. I'd love it if we had a real telemetry service that could do a bunch of things including this, but I believe the community would likely reject that so I'm not even going to propose it. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure