Re: Suggestion: Use a unified kernel image by default in the future.

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On Mo, 04.07.22 04:19, Demi Marie Obenour (demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> On 7/4/22 04:13, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Fr, 01.07.22 08:30, Gerd Hoffmann (kraxel@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> >
> >>> I do wonder if it's possible to use multiple initrds, and maybe have
> >>> the firmware in a separate initrd shared between all installed kernels
> >>> if we go down this route.
> >>
> >> grub supports multiple initrds just fine.  According to
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderSpecByDefault grub
> >> supports multiple initrd files also with bls.  That seems to be a
> >> derivation from the original boot loader spec though, so not sure this
> >> works with systemd-boot too.
> >>
> >> When going for multiple initrds the best approach is probably to simply
> >> split out the kernel modules into a version-specific initrd and store
> >> everything else in another, shared initrd.
> >
> > In the approach Zbginiew and I are working on we intend to build a
> > basic initrd into the kernel itself (i.e. in a unified kernel logic)
> > and then optionally load additional initrd images that can be
> > placed next to the kernel image and are picked up by the EFI stub
> > (i.e. by the EFI code that runs as part of the kernel when it runs in
> > EFI mode still, before we transition to Linux mode, i.e. where all the
> > EFI file systems are still accessible), and are passed to kernel,
> > measured and then very early on overlayed on top of the basic initrd
> > image (i.e. in an immutable overlayfs stack).
> >
> > In such an approach the basic initrd would be able to just boot 90% of
> > the systems, and for the other 10% we'd just add a couple of extension
> > images next to the kernel image, and that's it.
> >
> > (the extension images would be signed dm-verity squashfs, to ensure
> > everything is authenticated)
>
> Would the extension images also be measured into the TPM?

Yes, precisely. Sorted alphabetically, and then measured. (And in
fact, picked up by IMA too, because dm-verity is nowadays picked up by
it, iirc).

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering, Berlin
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