Re: Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-06-28) is cancelled. Many announcements

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On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:24:17PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:07:54PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > #2794 F37 Change proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree
> > > #libraries and with static stdc++lib
> > > APPROVED: FESCo approves the use of bundled libraries and static libstdc++
> > > for building Java (+5, 1, -0)
> > 
> > WTF, why???
> > 
> > The feedback in the mailing list thread was overwhelmingly negative. We have 
> > brought up several strong reasons why doing this is a horribly bad idea. Why 
> > have those arguments and the mailing list consensus not been considered by 
> > FESCo?
> 
> The whole proposal consists of a few parts. The part that was voted on
> was the first part. Various people opposed the whole proposal, but it
> was the later parts that raised the stronger opposition. The first
> part is something that is really within maintainer discretion, and has
> no impact on other packages. If the maintainer thinks that this will
> make it easier for them to deliver the package in this form, I don't
> think FESCo should block it. At least that's my motivation; for the
> whole discussion see the logs [*]. It certainly is not true that the
> feedback was not considered by FESCo: there was a long discussion on
> IRC, and FESCo members also participated in the mailing list thread.
> 
> Zbyszek
> 
> [*] I wanted to link to meetbot here, but I can't get the new version to
> cooperate.

Here it is

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-05-31/fesco.2022-05-31-17.00.html
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-05-31/fesco.2022-05-31-17.00.log.html


With regards,
Daniel
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