On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 03:41:14PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > If I try to summarise all the comments and discussions, the change proposal, as it is, is not perfect. But each participant can be happy with the resulting configuration. > > - desktops, because nothing changes for them > - cloud, they use cloud-init to configure hostname anyway on first boot with the exception of vagrant, where localhost can be useful > - CoreOS, use localhost already, but it resolves the OpenShift issue > - IoT, may have so set hostname explicitly, but don’t have any objection > - Server, usually set hostname explicitly according to some local naming convention or use DHCP/revers DNS, gain the option to use some post-installation tools, and otherwise don’t care anyway or doesn’t matter if it is fedora or localhost > > So, it is fine to go with it. > > > For desktops, we'd prefer to have the fallback > > hostname be "fedora", but fixing it so that a randomly generated > > string is appended would make it work properly in the multi-machine > > home network case (which is commonplace these days). > > Attaching a somehow generated unique string would be really an improvement. But that would be another Change Proposal, maybe for F38. > > This would affect desktops in particular. All others should be given the option to switch to this unique default or to leave it at localhost. > > I think for servers a unique default would be useful, especially for a bulk creation of server VMs in an un-managed environment. But we would have to change the default naming of the first Volume Group from fedora_{hostname} to something like fedora_system to avoid a too complex VG naming. Agree to all of this. Thanks for the summary! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure