> Am 13.06.2022 um 22:12 schrieb Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 09:38:01PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: >>>> YaST generates a linux-XXXX hostname when you install it. The "XXXX" >>>> string is alphanumeric. >>>> >>> >>> Also, yeah, I think if systemd-hostname could do something like that, >>> we could do that instead of forcing localhost. >> >> One big argument pro change proposal was resp. is, that many tools >> recognise localhost as unconfigured and don’t work anymore when you change >> to something different. >> >> Doesn't a change to linux-xxxx contradict the original rationale pro the change proposal? > > My take is: a freshly- but fully-installed Fedora Server or Fedora > Workstation system _shouldn't_ be "unconfigured". It should be basically > ready to go. And it's ideal of we can get to that state without asking a > litany of questions. Agreed. This has long been one of Fedora's strengths compared to other distributions. However, the initiators of the change proposal (almost?) all come from server type variants, especially cloud. On the one hand, they want the option to configure via DHCP back again, and on the other hand, they want the option to explicitly leave the hostname „unconfigured“ = "localhost", because this triggers various post-installation tools that automatically adapt post-installation tasks to adapt the system to different runtime environments. The unconfigured hostname thus paradoxically becomes practically part of a fully configured installed system. At least that is how I understood our discussion. > For Fedora Server, it may be that "configure your DNS" is actually part of > what's expected. But for Fedora Workstation, that's probably not reasonable > — lots of laptops which move networks, etc. Yes, for desktops und specifically laptops an unkonfigured hostname is generally bad. But, the current situation having a network with dozens of Workstation all named fedora is similarly bad as all named localhost (before the switch to fedora). So we might have to handle this differently for desktop type and server type systems. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
