Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:27 PM Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 5/10/22 06:29, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > According to developers, the non-portbale JDK is  causing upredicted
> > behavior different from other JDK vendors
>
> Similar to what Kevin has mentioned, I've also been using the Fedora
> openjdk builds for work for many years with no issues in a very large
> project.
>
> I have tried searching around and I can't find what this certification
> requirement is.  openjdk only says that you have to mostly using their
> sources.  The Java trademark requirement is harder to find and I only
> found some old mentions.  Do you have a reference?
>
> Do you really need to test every build before it's released?  I can't
> imagine that every little change needs a full test run.  Can you instead
> run tests as time is available?  I don't even really see that we're
> calling it "Java" as opposed to just openjdk and I haven't seen the Java
> logo anywhere.

I'm pretty sure we don't even include the Java logo for historical
reasons. Our OpenJDK originates from the IcedTea project[1], and while
most of that project is gone now, one consequence of that is that our
Java runtime has always been considered fully functional without the
Java TCK approval and we have been used to not using 100% code from
Sun/Oracle even after we finally got the TCK to run it against.

That said, I'm concerned that validating against the Java TCK is
considered so burdensome that this proposal is even being seriously
bandied about. Has there been any upstream discussions about this?

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20080716054009/http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IcedTea

(As an aside, apparently this page was lost at some point in the past
few years, our wiki doesn't have this page)


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