Hi, > Il giorno 10 mag 2022, alle ore 15:29, Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > == Summary == > This is initial step to move JDKs to be more like other JDKs, to build > proper transferable images, and to lower certification burden of each > binary. Long storyshort, first step in: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs > > This first step will move, one by one, individual JDKs in F37 to be > built `--with-stdc++lib=static` and against in-tree (bundeld) > libraries: `--with-zlib="bundled" --with-freetype="bundled" > --with-libjpeg="bundled" --with-giflib="bundled" > --withlibpng="bundled" --with-lcms="bundled" > --with-harfbuzz="bundled" ` > -1 here, we should avoid bundled libraries > We already made a heavy testing of the behavior, and user should not > face negative experience. I'm not sure if this is > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] > * Email: jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx > > > == Detailed Description == > Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs > for whole picture > > Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs#Move_JDKs_in_RPMs_to_become_portable > for this particular step. I would rather keep the details in the main > page then here. > > == Feedback == > According to short investigations, there are already precedents, where > certification is a reason to build once, certificate, and repack. > > According to developers, the non-portbale JDK is causing upredicted > behavior different from other JDK vendors > > According to JDK packagers and testers, there is to much JDKs now, and > the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs#Move_Fedora_JDKs_to_become_single-built.2C_portable.2C_ordinary_JDKs.2C_while_keeping_comfortable.2C_usual_system_integration > is the only way out > > == Benefit to Fedora == > Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs#Motivation > for whole picture. > > This particular proposal's main benefit will be that Fedora's JDKs as > packed in RPMs will again start to resemble upstream JDKs and other > vendors build, and some platform specific issues disappear, while JDKs > remain same in view of system integration and user experience > > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: push improved version of > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/java-latest-openjdk/pull-request/98#request_diff > to all JDKs - one by one from latest, over 17 to 11 and 8. Once > settled down in F37 the backport to F36 is expected. > > * Other developers: really, nothing. If there will be unexpected > impact to other developers, the > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs may > need rework > > * Release engineering: N/A [https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng > issue number] > * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) > * Alignment with Objectives: > > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > The compatibility and upgrade path should remain completely smooth. > > > == How To Test == > Install system JDK (java-17-openjdk) and ru your favorite application > or development. No regression should be noted. > > > == User Experience == > > Because of in-tree libraries, minimal image or font rendering > differences canbe spotted after very detailed investigations - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs#Side_effects > - still, no of th e > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs#Known_issues > should be hit by this proposal. > > > == Dependencies == > No dependent packages should notice the change. > > > == Contingency Plan == > * Contingency mechanism: Revert the patches and rework > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs > * Contingency deadline: before f37 release > * Blocks release? Unless the java-stack will become completely borked then no. > > > == Documentation == > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs > > > > -- > Ben Cotton > He / Him / His > Fedora Program Manager > Red Hat > TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis > _______________________________________________ I don’t agree with this proposal, a big -1 for this FAS: tartina Ciao _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
