On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 4:54 PM Andrew Hughes <gnu.andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Let me join the train of -1 votes. I consider this a step entirely in the > > wrong direction. The JDK should be linked to system libraries wherever > > possible just like our other packages. Language interpreters/JITs are not > > exempt from that. In fact, I see very little value in providing JDK packages > > at all if they are built that way. > > > > I expect JDK users would disagree with you. JDKs from other vendors > (Amazon, Azul, Oracle, etc.) are built in exactly this way. We (and > likely other GNU/Linux distributions) are the exception here. I don't think this is a valid argument, because you're looking at OpenJDK in isolation. As far as I know, almost all compilers and runtimes we ship in Fedora are built with a certain amount of downstream patches that make them "slightly different" than what you might install in binary form from "$foo-lang.org" (if only to make them usable to build other packages that use them), so OpenJDK is not an exception here at all. I would even argue that users are *aware* that the compilers / runtimes that are provided by Linux distributions are at least *slightly modified* (if only to cater to linux distribution use cases), and will already fall back to "official" binaries, when necessary. If you really want to lower your maintenance burden for OpenJDK packages, I'd start by not shipping four (or soon five?) different versions of them. For example, do we really still need java-1.8.0-openjdk? Or is it time to retire the ancient Java packages that only still work on a Java runtime that's almost a decade old? Or, can even java-11-openjdk be dropped in the near future, since java-17-openjdk is the default for Fedora 36 and future Fedora releases? And do we actually need the "java-latest-openjdk" version at all? If anybody needs such an up-to-date Java compiler / runtime for their development work, they'll surely already download an official binary distribution. Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
