Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

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On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 13:54 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> So I went to do a dnf system-upgrade from F35 to F36 on a test
> machine,
> as part of my usual testing.  In the middle of the process, it
> appears
> that /var filled up and that left the system in an unfortunate state.
> Surprisingly (to me) it did boot with a random mix of F35 and F36
> packages and even though it's a throwaway test box, I wanted to play
> around with fixing it a bit and trying to understand why it ran out
> of
> space instead of just reinstalling.
> 
> Turns out that "dnf --releasever 36 --nogpgcheck remove --duplicates"
> was able to effectively everything in the system, and while running
> this
> /var filled up again.  When that happened, dnf couldn't even be
> aborted;
> I had to kill -9.  The culprit is the write-ahead log,
> /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite-wal.  I resized /var and reran, and by the
> end
> of the process had grown to over 9GB:
> 
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 9124576392 May 13 13:11 rpmdb.sqlite-wal
> 
> Of course it immediately went to 0 once the transaction completed,
> though rpmdb.sqlite went from:
> 
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 281739264 May 11 14:24 rpmdb.sqlite
> 
> to
> 
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 730648576 May 13 13:15 rpmdb.sqlite
> 
> which seems... odd for what's effectively just reinstalling the
> existing
> package set.
> 

ll /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb* -h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 666M May 15 21:12 /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  32K May 16 01:52 /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite-shm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    0 May 15 21:12 /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite-wal

so 9 Gigas is not normal 

but you can do a symbol link to other partition of /var/lib/dnf/system-
upgrade/ , is required the symbol link be relative , at least this
worked some years ago .
I decide *not* separate root partition of home partition, now they are
only one partition, exactly to avoid this kind of problem. Also /var
where are docker files , databases , mock cache and build dirs , etc
etc make root partition fill up often .






> Anyway, obviously the solution is to make sure that /var is "big
> enough"
> before you do a system upgrade.  And we do have warnings about
> filesystems being too small, but nothing about needing an extra 10GB
> for
> this.  Certainly my case might be somewhat pathological and it was
> good
> that in the end I was able to get the system back into a useful state
> without wiping it.  But in the end I wonder:
> 
> 1) Is it really expected that the wal file will grow to that size?
> 
> 2) Is there anything to be done to reduce the size of the log?
> 
> 3) Is there any better way to handle a lack of space in /var during
> an
> RPM transaction?
> 
> 4) Can we estimate how large the file will grow, and refuse to start
> a
> system upgrade if there is not enough space?  Certainly we already do
> this to some degree, but it seems that the estimate of the required
> space is a bit too small.
> 
>  - J<
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