On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 02:05 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 13:54 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > So I went to do a dnf system-upgrade from F35 to F36 on a test > > machine, > > as part of my usual testing. In the middle of the process, it > > appears > > that /var filled up and that left the system in an unfortunate > > state. > > Surprisingly (to me) it did boot with a random mix of F35 and F36 > > packages and even though it's a throwaway test box, I wanted to > > play > > around with fixing it a bit and trying to understand why it ran out > > of > > space instead of just reinstalling. > > > > Turns out that "dnf --releasever 36 --nogpgcheck remove -- > > duplicates" > > was able to effectively everything in the system, and while running > > this > > /var filled up again. When that happened, dnf couldn't even be > > aborted; > > I had to kill -9. The culprit is the write-ahead log, > > /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite-wal. I resized /var and reran, and by > > the > > end > > of the process had grown to over 9GB: > > > > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 9124576392 May 13 13:11 rpmdb.sqlite-wal > > > > Of course it immediately went to 0 once the transaction completed, > > though rpmdb.sqlite went from: > > > > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 281739264 May 11 14:24 rpmdb.sqlite > > > > to > > > > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 730648576 May 13 13:15 rpmdb.sqlite > > > > which seems... odd for what's effectively just reinstalling the > > existing > > package set. > > > > ll /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb* -h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 666M May 15 21:12 /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32K May 16 01:52 /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite- > shm > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 15 21:12 /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite- > wal > > so 9 Gigas is not normal > > but you can do a symbol link to other partition of > /var/lib/dnf/system- > upgrade/ , is required the symbol link be relative , at least this > worked some years ago . > I decide *not* separate root partition of home partition, now they > are > only one partition, exactly to avoid this kind of problem. Also /var > where are docker files , databases , mock cache and build dirs , etc > etc make root partition fill up often . > https://access.redhat.com/discussions/641923 > > > > Anyway, obviously the solution is to make sure that /var is "big > > enough" > > before you do a system upgrade. And we do have warnings about > > filesystems being too small, but nothing about needing an extra > > 10GB > > for > > this. Certainly my case might be somewhat pathological and it was > > good > > that in the end I was able to get the system back into a useful > > state > > without wiping it. But in the end I wonder: > > > > 1) Is it really expected that the wal file will grow to that size? > > > > 2) Is there anything to be done to reduce the size of the log? > > > > 3) Is there any better way to handle a lack of space in /var during > > an > > RPM transaction? > > > > 4) Can we estimate how large the file will grow, and refuse to > > start > > a > > system upgrade if there is not enough space? Certainly we already > > do > > this to some degree, but it seems that the estimate of the required > > space is a bit too small. > > > > - J< > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > > -- > Sérgio M. B. > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure