Re: How much free space in /var is required for upgrades?

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Ooops: forgot the awk statement:

       dnf clean all --enablerepo=*
      dnf check-update | grep '^[a-zA-Z0-0]' | awk '{print $1}' |while
read name; do
        dnf update "$name" -y
    done

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 8:35 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 2:54 PM Jason L Tibbitts III <j@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > So I went to do a dnf system-upgrade from F35 to F36 on a test machine,
> > as part of my usual testing.  In the middle of the process, it appears
> > that /var filled up and that left the system in an unfortunate state.
> > Surprisingly (to me) it did boot with a random mix of F35 and F36
> > packages and even though it's a throwaway test box, I wanted to play
> > around with fixing it a bit and trying to understand why it ran out of
> > space instead of just reinstalling.
>
> It can be a problem for bulky upgrades, and it's why I loathe the
> "let's make every partition as small as possible" approach to laying
> out disks. A look can help:
>
>     dnf clean all --enablerepo=*
>     dnf check-update | grep '^[a-zA-Z0-0]' | while read name; do
>         dnf update "$name" -y
>     done
>
> > Turns out that "dnf --releasever 36 --nogpgcheck remove --duplicates"
> > was able to effectively everything in the system, and while running this
> > /var filled up again.  When that happened, dnf couldn't even be aborted;
> > I had to kill -9.  The culprit is the write-ahead log,
> > /var/lib/rpm/rpmdb.sqlite-wal.  I resized /var and reran, and by the end
> > of the process had grown to over 9GB:
> >
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 9124576392 May 13 13:11 rpmdb.sqlite-wal
> >
> > Of course it immediately went to 0 once the transaction completed,
> > though rpmdb.sqlite went from:
> >
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 281739264 May 11 14:24 rpmdb.sqlite
> >
> > to
> >
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 730648576 May 13 13:15 rpmdb.sqlite
> >
> > which seems... odd for what's effectively just reinstalling the existing
> > package set.
> >
> > Anyway, obviously the solution is to make sure that /var is "big enough"
> > before you do a system upgrade.  And we do have warnings about
> > filesystems being too small, but nothing about needing an extra 10GB for
> > this.  Certainly my case might be somewhat pathological and it was good
> > that in the end I was able to get the system back into a useful state
> > without wiping it.  But in the end I wonder:
>
> It's an unusual situation. /var/cache/ is one of the culprits for this
> kind of bulky upgrade.
>
> > 1) Is it really expected that the wal file will grow to that size?
> >
> > 2) Is there anything to be done to reduce the size of the log?
> >
> > 3) Is there any better way to handle a lack of space in /var during an
> > RPM transaction?
> >
> > 4) Can we estimate how large the file will grow, and refuse to start a
> > system upgrade if there is not enough space?  Certainly we already do
> > this to some degree, but it seems that the estimate of the required
> > space is a bit too small.
> >
> >  - J<
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