Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On 4/6/22 06:43, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:04 AM Gary Buhrmaster
>> <gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 AM Demi Marie Obenour
>>> <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/5/22 19:38, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>>> We either want users with NVIDIA hardware to be inside the Secure Boot
>>>>> fold or we don't. I want them in the fold *despite* the driver that
>>>>> needs signing is proprietary. That's a better user experience across
>>>>> the board, including the security messaging is made consistent. The
>>>>> existing policy serves no good at all and is double talk. If we really
>>>>> care about security more than ideological worry, we'd sign the driver.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with this.  Sign the driver.
>>>
>>> Nvidia has their driver signed for their
>>> Windows drivers.  That they choose
>>> not to do so for Linux is their right,
>>> even if some wish they did.
>>>
>>> It should be noted that while many
>>> might wish nvidia chose a different
>>> way, that is completely orthogonal
>>> to bios vs uefi.
>> 
>> Linux, like Windows, requires the distribution vendor to sign modules
>> for automatic trust. There are a number of complicated issues that
>> make it difficult for us to sign this particular driver, though.
>> Notably, NVIDIA themselves acknowledges that it infringes on the GPL
>> to redistribute built kernel module blobs of nvidia.ko[1], so that means
>> any method of signing it needs to be done locally, which means we
>> *need* the local signing path to be improved.
>> 
>> [1]: https://imgur.com/LUCQ3WW
>
> Can we get NVIDIA to make the module build reproducible?  If so, we
> could distribute a detached signature.

nvidia's module is proprietary.

Be well,
--Robbie

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