On Wednesday, 06 April 2022 at 13:07, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 11:20, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > and on its way out. As it ages, maintainability has decreased, and > > > the status quo of maintaining both stacks in perpetuity is not viable > > > for those currently doing that work. > > Have you tried getting more people involved? > > I don't think that's how Open Source works. Realistically the way I > see this playing out is that the people responsible for maintaining > the legacy boot stack will retire the packages, I thought they would be orphaned, if anything. Retiring seems rather hostile to the people who still need those packages (which are those, by the way?). > some well meaning > community people take them over, then everything breaks in an > unexpected way before a Fedora release for some technical reason and If this change is accepted, then BIOS-based installations will break and will have to be removed from release blocking criteria because anaconda will simply not support that use case anymore. That's how I understand the impact although this is not explicitly written in the change proposal. > the new package maintainers have no idea how to fix the underlying > issue. Then Fedora QA needs to decide if the legacy boot failure is > actually release blocking. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but asking > someone "have you tried getting more people involved" is neither > helpful nor realistic. It's helpful to show the change proponents attitude. As a way of "asking more people to get involved", I'd expect a list of packages the change proponents no longer whish to maintain and a date when they will orphan them, since they've stated they're going to do that anyway. Without such list it's difficult to assess the scope of the work required to maintain the affected software stack. I don't see any such details in the change proposal. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPM Fusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
