On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:06:49PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 11:55 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On the first part: yes, there's a long, slow sunset, but I think > > realistically we're going to see business-side attention drop significantly, > > and we'll have correspondingly worse and worse service. Right now, there are > > basically only two people keeping it all going, which is heroic. I don't > > think it's too much pulling-back-the-corporate-curtain to guess that if one > > or both get tired of that and decide to go start a yak farm, Red Hat won't > > prioritize hiring backfill dedicated in the same way. > > There is one thing I worry about here - and maybe we need to take this > up internally within Red Hat, but whatever - I strongly believe that > *at a minimum*, going to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=NNN should show you the > report, comments, and attachments for bug NNN. *Forever*. RH Bugzilla > is effectively a huge, 20-year long knowledge base at this point. > Probably hundreds of thousands of places on the internet link to RH > bugs. Taking that offline would be effectively an act of vandalism. It would be an act of massive self-harm to Red Hat too, not merely community projects using it. As a RHEL package maintainer, I frequently consult old bugs, from links we have embedded in patches / changelogs / mailing lists / commits. It is not unknown for me to look at bugs *10-15* years old to understand the history of why something was done the way it is. IOW, even if RHEL changes to use Jira for all future bug tracking tomorrow, the need to reference bugzilla tickets could remain for literally decades to come. Jira has been mirroring some bugzilla content for a while, but that's by no means a complete archive of relevant history, and still leaves the problem if figuring out the matching link. > It may not need to keep actually working as a dynamic web app if we do > retire BZ - we could reduce it to a server that just serves up static > snapshots of the content - but I'd really hate to see the content lost. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
