Re: Chromium security bugs remain unfixed for > 1 month

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 6:44 AM Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 3/2/22 04:05, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > On 02/03/2022 01:21, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> >> What are the differences between the RPMFusion SRPM and the
> >> Fedora SRPM?
> >
> > RPM Fusion version includes all available multimedia codecs.
>
> That doesn’t explain why RPM Fusion gets updates so much more
> quickly.
>
> >> Tom Callaway, what is the hardest part for you?
> >
> > Packaging of Google's software is a nightmare. They do their best to
> > make packaging as difficult as possible by using dozens of bundled
> > libraries, their own build system, etc.
>
> In the case of something like Chromium, a sloppy package that gets
> timely updates is better than a fully conforming package that does not.

You do not know what you're asking for.

You're asking for packaging where we may wind up having things of
questionable legality, questionable licensing, and questionable
integration that can cause serious issues for Fedora users and
downstreams. As a security person, you should be ashamed that you
thought this was a good idea. Maximizing reuse across the Fedora
ecosystem provides significant benefits because we are able to
leverage our quality components, our hardening capabilities, and
provide additional capabilities to benefit consumption within the
Fedora ecosystem.

For example, Fedora's Chromium will attempt to use Wayland by default
on a Wayland desktop. Upstream Chrom(e|ium) is not ready for that yet.
We ship VA-API integration, which Google doesn't offer. We have
working screencasting on Wayland, which upstream doesn't have right
now by default. We can enable security features that upstream refuses
to (CaBLE, for example). And so on.

Those features provide tangible benefits to the community at large
that we would lose by "sloppy packaging". Instead of kvetching, why
not try helping? Maybe *ask* Tom what you could do to help him ship
newer versions?

The same goes for everyone else on this thread so far. I'm
disappointed by the OP and everyone else in this thread who thinks
it's okay to do less than a good job on shipping software. The only
complaint I could probably see is that the patches he's got haven't
been submitted upstream, but submitting to Chromium upstream is *hard*
(I've made contributions to Chromium and it's really not easy to do)
and I assume he's working on it.


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