$ cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.timer [Unit] Description=dnf makecache --timer ConditionKernelCommandLine=!rd.live.image # See comment in dnf-makecache.service ConditionPathExists=!/run/ostree-booted Wants=network-online.target [Timer] OnBootSec=10min OnUnitInactiveSec=1h RandomizedDelaySec=60m Unit=dnf-makecache.service [Install] WantedBy=timers.target [chris@fovo ~]$ So what should the Wants be here, instead of network-online.target? multiuser.target? I suppose they need to be someone tolerant of no network being available during startup, it does seem to take a while for wireless connections to succeed, but at least in my case it's up by the time I've logged in. Also the same thing for packagekit.service. $ cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit.service [Unit] Description=PackageKit Daemon # PK doesn't know how to do anything on ostree-managed systems; # currently the design is to have dedicated daemons like # eos-updater and rpm-ostree, and gnome-software talks to those. ConditionPathExists=!/run/ostree-booted Wants=network-online.target [Service] Type=dbus BusName=org.freedesktop.PackageKit User=root ExecStart=/usr/libexec/packagekitd ====== $ grep -r "network-online" /usr/lib/systemd/system/ /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-wait-online.service:Before=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-wait-online.service:WantedBy=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service:# WantedBy=network-online.target, so enabling it only has an effect if /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service:# network-online.target itself is enabled or pulled in by some other unit. /usr/lib/systemd/system/auditd.service:## uncomment the second so that network-online.target is part of After. /usr/lib/systemd/system/auditd.service:##After=network-online.target local-fs.target systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups-browsed.service:After=cups.service avahi-daemon.service network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups-browsed.service:Wants=avahi-daemon.service network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.service:After=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.timer:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnsmasq.service:;After=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/iscsi.service:After=network.target network-online.target iscsid.service iscsiuio.service systemd-remount-fs.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/iscsid.service:After=network-online.target iscsiuio.service iscsi-init.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/kdump.service:After=network.target network-online.target remote-fs.target basic.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/nfs-mountd.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/nfs-mountd.service:After=network-online.target local-fs.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/nfs-server.service:Wants=rpcbind.socket network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/nfs-server.service:After=network-online.target local-fs.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service:After=syslog.target network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/openvpn-server@.service:After=syslog.target network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/openvpn-server@.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/podman-auto-update.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/podman-auto-update.service:After=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/rpc-statd-notify.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/rpc-statd-notify.service:After=local-fs.target network-online.target nss-lookup.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/rpc-statd.service:Wants=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/rpc-statd.service:After=network-online.target nss-lookup.target rpcbind.socket /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd-wait-online.service:Before=network-online.target shutdown.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd-wait-online.service:WantedBy=network-online.target /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd.service:# WantedBy=network-online.target, so enabling it only has an effect if /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd.service:# network-online.target itself is enabled or pulled in by some other unit. Is Wants=network-online.target the problem? Or also After=network-online.target? It looks like there's potential for more service units causing this problem than just the two I'm seeing. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure