On Di, 22.02.22 09:38, Chris Murphy (lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > Do any of Fedora desktop spins and Workstation edition need > NetworkManager-wait-online.service enabled by default? > > Fedora 35 Workstation (updated, default "preset-all" service units) > $ systemd-analyze > Startup finished in 1.330s (kernel) + 1.284s (initrd) + 12.256s > (userspace) = 14.871s > graphical.target reached after 12.232s in userspace > > Fedora 35 Workstation, same as above except > NetworkManager-wait-online.service is disabled > $ systemd-analyze > Startup finished in 1.294s (kernel) + 1.243s (initrd) + 5.704s > (userspace) = 8.242s > graphical.target reached after 5.670s in userspace > > 6.6s longer to wait for what? Is this service enabled just in case > someone adds an NFS or Samba mount to fstab? I'm not sure why this > service unit is enabled by default; and if we can either go without it > on the desktop, or if there's some other way to make it better, > because nearly doubling the boot time doesn't seem reasonable. The idea is that it is only pulled into the bootup transaction if something needs it. Typically that's stuff like NFS/SMB mounts listed in /etc/fstab or so. Note that the fact that the unit is enabled, doesn't mean it's automatically in the boot transaction! That's because it (correctly) hooks itself into network-online.target (rather than multi-user.target or so) — and that target is only pulled in when something actually needs it. LTDR: figure our which service pulls in network-online.target for you. A command like this should work: systemctl show -p WantedBy,RequiredBy network-online.target Summary: NM-w-o.s being enabled is not a bug, if you use NM for network management. And: NM-w-o.s actually being pulled in *is* a bug, unless you have something like configured NFS/SMB mounts in /etc/fstab, that really cannot work without the network actually being up. There might be other valid candidates for this, i.e. other network client stuff that is really important for the boot to be up. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure