On Sun, 2021-11-21 at 15:08 +0000, Tom Hughes wrote: > > That's why I gave a link to the old version from the wiki history > before it was replaced by a pointer to the new page. > It did help for some info. Thank you. > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group&oldid=619444 > > > > > > Basically you need to find somebody to sponsor you as a > > > packager - normally that happens as part of having your first > > > package review but obviously that doesn't work when you want > > > to take over an existing package. > > > > So you see what I was talking about so many (years?!?!) ago, then > > recently too on this list. It is a common thing it seems that once > > a > > person steps up to ask for sponsorship something seems to happen. I > > am > > struck by the first line of your response "You say you have "asked > > to > > become a packager" but what exactly do you mean by that?" Well, > > quite > > simply what I stated, but yet I am being questioned about my > > sincereity > > and credibility immediately. > > I wasn't questioning your credibility, I was just confused because > there's no formal place to lodge such a request as far as I know > other > than a review ticket blocking FE-SPONSOR which doesn't apply here. > > I was worried that you had filed some sort of request somewhere > that nobody was looking. > So maybe we have inadvertently found a crack in the process for onboarding package maintainers. > > So back to what I was trying to say in my conversation here about > > some > > tool for assessing the prospective newbies like me who want to help > > but > > need a sponsor, I was thinking of an app that tests your knowledge > > and > > the discussion went towards a generic test package to show > > packaging > > knowledge with, then make sponsoring come easier for sponsors. > > Because > > this seems to be really the crux of the matter, trust or lack of > > it. > > I'm not aware of any previous discussions. I was just answering > the questions you asked in your post today. > > Tom > Again, thank you for taking the time to respond. FWIW I recognize your name from RH and Fedora for some time, ie years, not trying to make anyone feel old but it is what it is. The previous discussion was around onbarding new package maintainers, and the impetus is directly related to the published orphaned packages, and trying to make them not be orphaned if needed still. There is a disconnect between the position taken in the documents around becoming a packager that seems to imply it is as easy as doing steps #1, #2, then #3, which it isn't. Also worth noting is that there is a "dummy onboarding package" that was started by someone on this list as a result of the conversation but I haven't found any continuation of the idea. Regards. Stephen _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
