On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:06 PM Solomon Peachy <pizza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:30:40AM +0100, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > I didn't complain. I'm not opposing, yet I'm acknowledging that it is > > not true that iwconfig is unused. It is very much used, if not just > > for printing the nice summary that the tool provides when called > > without arguments. > > IIRC there are still a few WEXT-only drivers for obsolete wifi hardware > in the Linux kernel. I don't know if Fedora builds them or not, but drop > iwconfig and that hardware becomes unusable under Fedora. (prism2_usb > comes to mind) There's one driver that depends on it and that was only ever shipped on i686 hardware which we obviously don't support any longer. The prism2_usb is in staging on it's way out of the kernel and hasn't been built in Fedora for years. > Meanwhile, the default summary output of 'iwconfig' is all I have used > it for in many, many years. It is _very_ useful in a way that no other > tool has been. (not unlike the default output of ifconfig _still_ being > more generally useful than 'ip') > > I'm sure all of the info that iwconfig provides can be extracted from > iw, but it's a lot less convenient. (Plus some of us have muscle memory > going back to when iwconfig was the new hotness...) It also doesn't provide huge amounts of useful information for modern HW like anything after 11a/11g like no support for 11n/ac/ax HW and it doesn't report a lot of the newer available frequencies like newer added 5Ghz bands so while it does provide some slightly useful information if you actually look closely a lot of it is actually incorrect. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
