Re: crypto-policies and a certain usage of SHA-1

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On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 10:33 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 15 2021 at 10:10:38 AM +0200, Björn Persson 
> <Bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > My question is: Is it true that this usage of SHA-1 makes the TLS
> > session weak, so that it's correct to forbid it in the crypto policy?
> 
> Hm, I think Fedora's crypto policy should not be stricter than upstream 
> Firefox. This should probably be allowed.
> 
> Enterprise distros are intentionally trying to be stricter and 
> completely remove SHA-1, but Fedora is not an enterprise distro and 
> breaking websites that work fine everywhere else is not OK for Fedora.
> 
> > Or could it be that Qualys is right? Perhaps SHA-1 is fine for this 
> > use
> > case, even though it's too weak for other use cases, and the crypto
> > policy should allow it?
> 
> SHA-1 is blocked in certificate signatures because those can be 
> attacked offline. Signatures in the TLS handshake are entirely 
> different. I'm hardly an expert, but I think the attacker only has a 
> few seconds to generate a hash collision before the user gives up and 
> closes the browser tab. Spending several months trying to find a 
> collision is not an option here. Am I wrong?

Session keys are important not just for MiTM attacks, but also for
store and decrypt attacks.

TLS connections often channel a host of important private information
that can be quite valuable even weeks or years after they are
transmitted, including credentials.

A weak session key will allow store and later decryption of
communications, therefore retrieval of sensitive data.

HTH,
Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc



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