Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:36 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:01 PM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I still remember how Red Hat Linux and (IIRC) Fedora Core 1 could be booted >>> from a floppy (older Red Hat Linux releases even had a fully functioning >>> rescue mode on the floppy, later ones could at least still boot a HDD >>> install from the boot floppy, which is how I installed them, and in that way >>> also boot the rescue mode). These days, the minimum boot image (know known >>> as the netinst ISO) barely fits on a CD, and in Fedora 33 even exceeded CD >>> size (https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/23). The Fedora 34 netinst image >>> is still 450 times the size of a floppy! >> >> >> >> The top two reasons for this: a significant portion of anaconda used to be downloaded, and now is included on the media; linux-firmware bloat, which is the fastest growing package for the past few years. Front this point there's a bunch of pressure points and trade-offs. This cycle we were over CD-ROM size of 700MiB, and ended up trimming out about 30M from linux-firmware. >> >> -- >> Chris Murphy > > It's also X based with GUI's, rather than an ncurses based graphical > interface. Reviewing a fresh install, there is little to nothing that > couldn't be done in a much, much smaller text interface going through > a linear checklist with ncurses, and follow Eric Raymond's old > guidelines for open source interfaces titled "The Luxury of > Ignorance". But some folks like pretty GUIs, even though sophisticated > GUI's cost resources to run. They are also much more intuitive to use for your average user/ newcomer to Linux in contrast to a text interface (which will put them off when compared to the Windows or Ubuntu installer). Yes, a text interface is much more resource friendly, but imho that will cause more harm than actual benefit. Cheers, Dan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure