Hi, Workstation working group was tracking this: #241 Re-revisit Fedora Workstation minimums https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/241 But to answer the questions, I think we need to broaden the conversation, hence this email. Only Fedora Workstation edition explicitly states minimum hardware requirements: "Fedora requires a minimum of 20GB disk, 2GB RAM, to install and run successfully. Double those amounts is recommended." https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/ Minimum hardware requirements is intended to setup some kind of expectation of performance. The goal isn't the hardware requirement, that's just the means of getting to the goal. So what's the goal? For sure folks need to be able to install it plus some breathing room to install additional software and user data. That gets to the minimum storage space angle. But the CPU, memory, and IO angle are more complex. A completely objective metric would account for the local workload, which we don't know. So we're going to have to come up with a subjective recommendation, i.e. take an educated guess. (I enjoy underscoring that subjective != arbitrary.) How does the minimum hardware requirement achieve the intended goal? And is it testable? We could ask folks to run some workloads on low-CPU, low-memory hardware, and report 'grep -r . /proc/pressure' whenever they think the system is performing worse than expected? Or what? Anyway, this is just to kick off a conversation. Let's see where it goes. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure