Re: Fedora Maven? [was: Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs]

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> Am 08.10.2021 um 02:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> Michal Srb wrote:
>> Unlike RPM repositories, Maven repositories can easily hold multiple
>> versions of libraries. ...
> 
> And that is actually a problem rather than a solution. Maven artifacts are 
> basically write once only. Everything depends on a hardcoded version which, 
> once uploaded, is normally never touched again. This means that security 
> bugs and other bugs never get fixed ...

A valid point, but only in case the app that consumes the maven artefact in unmaintained. 

The goal of the "curated list“ is to make building an "app-rpm" less burdensome and provide for more apps as rpm this way. And the updated „app-rpm“ would use an updated version of that jar. And that app would be part of the usual rpm update procedure.  



>> Fedora could ship just Java applications that would bundle JARs (whatever
>> version they need) from the Fedora Maven repository. I don't see this as a
>> problem, as long as it would be possible to track what JARs are bundled in
>> what application.
> 
> So you propose to bundle a whole bunch of JARs, some of which have been 
> built many Fedora releases ago and might not even be buildable in any 
> currently supported Fedora anymore?

No! See above.


> I think this would be not only a huge 
> waste of space

given the current size of hard drive space, this really isn't a problem. You won't be able to install a meaningful collection of apps whose cumulative footprint of jars installed in parallel leaves any noticeable trace on a x tb disk. But you gain a lot in security if as many of these apps as possible are managed as rpm.
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