Re: Fedora 💔 Java: The Death of Two SIGs

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> Am 29.09.2021 um 13:49 schrieb Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> Since many have moved this discussion away from this question, let me please bring back the main reason this was posted.
> 
> Since the @java-maint-sig group is esentially non-responsive, I suggest we do the following:
> 
> 
> 1) We remove all BZ assignee overrides to @java-maint-sig. This is a must.
> 2) We remove access of @java-maint-sig from all packages.
> 3) We ask the members of the group if they want to admin the list/BZ account.
>  3a) We give it to the volunteer.
>  3b) We empty the group and cancel the BZ account/list if nobody shows up.
> 4) We *don't orphan the packages*, they have some "de jure" maintainers.
> 
> The packages that fail to install and/or build will eventually die out due to the existing processes.

Given the current situation, that seems like a sensible way to go.

However, under no circumstances should such a move be put into action unless all current group members have been explicitly asked for their opinions. 

For one thing, I think that would be simply bad practice. For another, about half of the current 12 members seem to be dedicated to Java, (they are "only" assigned to the 200 - 300 mostly Java core packages, not thousands of packages across the distribution). So they are potentially the ones who are currently actively maintaining the Fedora Java stack. They should have a say in the matter how to organise the work.

If no one responds within 1-2 weeks (which I would almost expect, unfortunately), then this structure is clearly obsolete.
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