Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs

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On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 08:20, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:06:58PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > OCaml library code can in principle be dynamically linked, eg:
> > >
> > > $ rpm -ql ocaml-extlib | grep cmxs
> > > /usr/lib64/ocaml/extlib/extLib.cmxs
> > > $ file /usr/lib64/ocaml/extlib/extLib.cmxs
> > > /usr/lib64/ocaml/extlib/extLib.cmxs: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64,
> > > version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked,
> > > BuildID[sha1]=5647dd0137ce0a5302c8040301b26a109d771948, with debug_info,
> > > not stripped
> > >
> > > but upstream doesn't make it possible to ship OCaml binaries this way,
> > > (they would still require rebuilding on every library update) and so
> > > we only ship the DLLs not fully dynamically linked OCaml binaries
> > > (except for the C code).
> >
> > Ah?
> >
> > So what sits in the main packages of libraries (e.g., in ocaml-facile as
> > opposed to ocaml-facile-devel) then? Don't only shared libraries belong in
> > the main package?
>
> The original split of ocaml-FOO / ocaml-FOO-devel doesn't make a lot
> of sense these days.  Ideally we'd put them all in one package.
>
> > So I take back my comment that the OCaml stack is properly packaged. ;-)
> > That sounds like almost as much of a mess as Go and Rust then.
>
> I'd hardly say OCaml packging is a mess.  It's much closer to the
> spirit of C packaging than those others.  If you have *specific,
> actionable* objections I will listen to them.
>
>

I think Kevin's comment is meant more towards the way the language
packages itself versus the rpm packaging of the language. Going from
Kevin's comments on languages over the years, a 'good' language should
not require such sort of rebuilding.


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