Re: Java packaging issue on EPEL7

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On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 06:29 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 20/07/2021 11:18, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> You're violating the bundling and naming practices that EPEL and
> Fedora have used for years, especially their insistence that they
> build from source, not repackaging bundled binaries from someone else
> into an RPM.

This is not a Fedora package. This is a COPR package.

Your wording in your initial emails made it sound like this was a package either in EPEL or going to be in EPEL. In a very rare case, I was in agreement with Nico and going to say the same things they did. Thank you for clarifying this but it was confusing.




COPR guidelines allows usage of pre-built binaries if they don't violate
the Fedora Legal guidelines[1]: "You do not need to comply with
Packaging Guidelines".

> There are a whole stack of security reasons to discourage
> that, and assuring the original source code and build tools are
> available for others to modify is vital to "free software" in the GPL
> sense.

PyCharm CE binaries are licensed under the terms of the Apache 2.0
license, which is completely free and opensource.

> To quote you: "PyCharm CE cannot be completely built from sources". If
> that were completely true, it could not be built on COPR.

That's why we use pre-built binaries.

> If it's
> broken on Fedora, please, work with *that*, and I suspect that
> resolving that will resolve the missing dependency issue.

Java SIG tried to revive the Java stack on Fedora several times. It's
still dead.

When the Java stack will be operational again, we will switch to
building from sources.

[1]:
https://docs.pagure.org/copr.copr/user_documentation.html#what-i-can-build-in-copr

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