On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 07:59:11AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 07:06, Björn Persson <Bjorn@rombobjörn.se> wrote: > > > > Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 18/07/2021 13:38, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > 1. People don't give feedback and only complain after the fact. > > > > > > On Fedora too. Only a few popular packages (kernel, firefox, > > > thunderbird) get user feedback on Bodhi. All others will need to stay in > > > testing for 7 days. > > > > I suspect that many users are like me: I don't want to constantly be a > > guinea-pig for the whole testing repository, but if I could be notified > > I expect that this is so, but I think the idea of not being a 'guinea > pig' is off. People are going to be guinea-pigs one way or another.. > either they take the time to test it or they get to test it when it > gets pushed automatically into production. So maybe putting off the > pain for 2 weeks isn't doing anything for anyone? I think some (many?) people have some machines with updates-testing enabled. I do on my laptop, and this catches the occasional bug in an update. I report negative karma almost exclusively, because I don't do any proactive testing of updates, so usually I don't have the basis to say that an update is "good". But the time spent in updates-testing is still useful for some form of testing. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure