> about the technical work which need to be done and which need to change > the Fedora cycle durations. What, who, when, how long, and why this > can't be done in parrallel ? All I'm getting is "we need longuer cycles" > and still not understanding. > > BTW I'm not represnting Red Hat position, just an engineer trying to > understand some engineering plumbing and not getting it. > Who: fedora community people along with some red hat release engineers What: Fedora extras steering committee Why: We have to re-engineer EVERYTHING that y'all already have in order to: 1. support systems which are not inside red hat's network 2. have a buildsystem at all 3. have an errata release mechanism at all 4. have a db to coordinate any of these things. We're not allowed to use or even see anything already written at rh b/c either: 1. it sucks or 2. it's part of the 'secret sauce' that some vp at rh thinks is valuable, somehow. So we have to start over from scratch on everything and only a handful of those systems are in place: 1. cvs - only took a year to get it happening and another 6 months to use it 2. account system - only 18 months 3. build system - once extras got moving it took a mere 4 months to get time to take care of it - and we still have to throw one away. 4. errata system - not there yet - probably AT LEAST another 6 months 5. db for coordination - just starting oh and we need all of those things YESTERDAY. So there you go. - that's the list - now do you understand why we would like a little more time before the next release? -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list