On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 09:10:52AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 16:42, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 05:09:44PM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote: > > > > I'm not sure this is all a super big deal, but I'd really like to make > > sure we make _very_ clear who is responsible for what. Some maintainers > > would be happy to maintain for that long cycle (from landing in > > eln-extra now, to epel 10 next, to epel10... thats what... 13 years?), > > but some may not, and some might be happy for part of it but not the > > entire thing. > > > > > I thought we made a change 3-4 years ago. We stopped saying a maintainer > has to maintain for 10 years. Packages in EPEL are from volunteers and > volunteers come and go. Volunteers have different ideas of what they want > to support at different times. In the same way that EPEL has no set of > packages that is 'EPEL', it also can have no timeline for how long a > package is going to be in the repository. If a maintainer decides they are > done, and no one wants to take over the package.. it and everything that > requires it can go. > [The reason being that the half-life of a volunteer in Fedora is about 3 > years and we had a lot of dead packages where people thought they were > being maintained, the maintainer was burnt out and not responding until we > asked and they said 'they had stopped caring years ago.'.] Yes, absolutely. I agree that volenteers can and should maintain what they wish for as long as they wish to do it. Thats not the part I'm worried about. It's when other groups or people are maintaining a package. How involved should the Fedora maintainer be? IMHO they should be as involved as they wish to be, which would range from: No, I don't want to have anything to do with eln-epel to I would prefer to maintain it myself. But I guess the promise here is just like eln: No branches, no changes, Fedora maintainer has control of their rawhide spec to accept/reject changes to fix eln-epel things? If ELN sig is willing to do all that more work I suppose we could try it. Ideally it would be nice to get FMN fixed first, but oh well. kevin
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