On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:49 AM Davide Cavalca via devel > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 09:26 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > I'd like to encourage anyone interested in this meeting to submit > > > agenda topics by replying to this email. Currently the agenda > > > > One thing I'd be interested in exploring is the feasibility of > > extending ELN to cover EPEL as well. This would make it easier to keep > > EPEL consistent between major releases (as packages would get branched > > automatically). It would also make it possible to test the combined ELN > > + EPEL snapshot and find potential issues early on in the process. > > > > Sorry for coming late to the discussion. I took a week off and all > sorts of things happened while I was gone. > > I believe Kevin and Smooge, and possibly even you Davide got this > backwards. And I think if we do this right, this can be a thing. > > When we started ELN, one of the major promises was that it wouldn't > interfere with regular Fedora work. That your average Fedora packager > that didn't care about ELN, could continue to not care about ELN and > nothing would change. > I believe we (ELN SIG) should extend the same courtesy to EPEL and the > EPEL community and packagers. > > The email discussion went in the direction of all the work that EPEL > would need to do to create an ELN EPEL. But we (ELN SIG) shouldn't > have expected that. We should have expected to do all the work. > > So, if we flip this around, where everything is on ELN, how would that work. > > We create a new Fedora target and tag: eln-extra (so people do NOT > confuse it with real EPEL) > eln-extra-build inherits from itself and eln-build > If a package is built against the eln-extra target, and it is > successful, it gets tagged with the eln-extra tag. > There is a daily (or some other time period) repo creation. No > images, just a repo, like epel. > There is a list of packages, similar to the list of packages used to > create the ELN list, on some github/gitlab/pagure repo. If you put a > package on that list, you associate your name with that package. > Just like ELN, when a package on the eln-extra list gets built in > rawhide, it get's built in eln-extra. In fact, it would be best if we > just altered the ELN trigger/periodic scripts to look at this list > along with the regular ELN list. > > What are people's thoughts on this? > No extra work on EPEL. > If someone, or some company wants to test ELN and need packages not in > ELN, they can add the packages to the list, with their name/company > associated with that package. > It would get built, put in the repo, and they can then run their ELN > test with the package they need. > This is exactly how it should be done! Otherwise, have a list of packages to exclude and include everything else. V/r, James Cassell _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure