On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:26 AM Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2/3/21 2:06 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 6:39 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> On 03. 02. 21 10:13, Panu Matilainen wrote: > >>> Hey all, > >>> > >>> Just woke up to the fact that F34 is about to be branched, and that we > >>> originally planned to phase out BDB rpmdb support to read-only in Fedora 34 [1]. > >>> > >>> That's too close to comfort for me, and might be considered too late for other > >>> reasons too. So a slight change of plans, lets postpone this to F35, and handle > >>> this right away after F34 has been branched. Rpm >= 4.17 which is to be expected > >>> later in F35 will not *have* read-write BDB support at all, so disabling it > >>> early gives folks a little of leeway where things can still be temporarily > >>> reverted if something unexpected breaks. > >>> > >>> Should we file a separate system-wide change for this, or can we proceed on the > >>> basis that this was already accepted as a part of the sqlite change [1]? > >> > >> I'd say this is already accepted as a part of the sqlite change, but please open > >> a placeholder issue at https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes to make sure > >> we document this in the release notes of Fedora 35. > >> > > > > I'm not entirely sure why you think we need to postpone this, since > > > > 1) branching is the *early* part of the cycle, not the late part and > > 2) Koji is already doing bootstrap builds now, explicitly because of > > BDB being dropped in Fedora 34. > > > > We accepted the Fedora 33 Change with the premise you were going to > > drop in Fedora 34. Reverting to enabling the rw BDB backend is pretty > > straightforward, so I still suggest that you actually *still* do it > > now and file a release note issue about it being dropped in F34. > > Well, if we people actually *want* us to go ahead and axe it right now, > I'm not going to push back :D > > The idea of postponing was to be, as ever, playing with safe with rpm > changes which are best dealt with long before branching point. But of > course you're right in that this is an easy thing to revert back if > things do go wrong. > I'd rather you do it now, please. It's not like you're ripping out code from RPM right now, you're just flipping a switch off. :) Now is as good of a time as any to figure out what's left to fix, if anything. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
