On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > You can do this in mock without messing with your system. You can use > `mock -i some.rpm`, you can even use `mock --pm-cmd whatever dnf > command you want to use`. You can use `mock your.srpm > --short-circuit=install` and similar. You can use `mock shell --unpriv` > if you want to tinker more. Mock is everything you ever wanted to > develop for Fedora. > > So could you please share with us specifics of your workflow which > makes it unique and which really requires `fedpkg local`? I can't > imaging that intentionally breaking the host system due to testing > soname bump is the right thing to do. Personally I spend 95% of my time inside an unprivileged pet "toolbox" style container with podman; I very very rarely execute any commands on the "host" context. And mock doesn't really nest well (nested containers in general are possible but still involve some tricky compromises). So I use `fedpkg local` a lot, and I also often install these packages into my dev container *or* I just skip RPM entirely and `sudo make install`. For CoreOS stuff I use https://coreos.github.io/coreos-assembler/working/#using-overrides a lot which makes it convenient to take these built binaries and launch them in qemu. This of course gets into the broader overlap between mock/podman and Koji/Kubernetes which is also touched on in https://github.com/projectatomic/rpmdistro-gitoverlay/blob/master/doc/reworking-fedora-releng.md =) It'd all be much more obvious if the RPM buildroot was just: ``` FROM registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora-buildroot:33 RUN yum builddep foo.spec RUN fedpkg local ``` And so if you want a pristine build locally you just use a wrapper tool which scripts unprivileged podman. (Yes, this loses RPM caching if done naively but has other massive advantages, such as being able to trivially spin up a shell on a remote Kube cluster that is *exactly* the build environment, etc.) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx