Re: Fedora 34 Change: DNF/RPM Copy on Write enablement for all variants (System-Wide Change)

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On Sat, 2021-01-02 at 13:42 +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:10:27AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> 
> This is most likely because we are only making drpms against the most
> recent updates. So, we are making very few drpms and only against
> things
> that recently updated. 

So... people who actually care about the total download are likely not
to update all the time, which also means that drpms will not work for
them.

> For example:
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/33/Everything/x86_64/drpms/
> (126 drpms for all of f33 updates). 
> 
So... that means that drpms wouldn't even make a difference for people
who update often.

...and the proposed Change would require additional contortions to
allow
drpms to work. It sounds like drpms are not worth the trouble anymore.
The effort to make them work properly would be large. I think the
crucial bit is that we have more packages and updates than ever, and
at the same time more people update at custom schedules, so any
reasonable
subset of drpms will cover a shrinking subset of upgrades.

Zbyszek

> > Maybe the time has come to just disable DRPM entirely for F34.
> 
> We could. Or try and make them more usefull again. 


FWIW, I also think it's time for drpms to go.  Aside from any potential
issues with the proposed change, they haven't been useful in Fedora for
three years, (see https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7215), and nobody's
been able to put in the time to fix it yet.  If that changed and
someone was willing to step up and commit to fixing this, I'd feel very
differently.

In addition, drpms aren't even working at the moment.  Something has
changed during the last week or so that's broken them (see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1911828).  I'll take a
look, but, being honest, there's not much motivation to investigate
this when drpms are of such marginal use in Fedora at the moment.

Jonathan
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