On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 16:23, James Szinger <jszinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:51:49 +0100 > clime <clime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Well, the users here are still packagers here no? I thought the "User" > > in the title means "end user" who shouldn't be affected by it. Maybe > > Ben can clarify this. > > I am making a distinction between Fedora packagers who use the Fedora > infrastructure to build RPMs for the Fedora repositories, and second > and third party packagers who use their own infrastructure. External > packagers count as ‘users’ for the purposes of change proposals, > especially infrastructure changes such as this. Many change proposals > have no effect for external packagers, or have the same effect as for > the general user base. This proposal, however, seems potentially > disruptive for external packagers, and I want to see those issues > specifically addressed in the change proposal. > > I will advocate that external packagers are of strategic importance to > the Fedora Project. The software they provide encourages the adoption > of Fedora. They form a pool a potential Fedora packagers. They are > the technical experts that support the local users. They are > fundamental to the Fedora Mission: > > Fedora creates an innovative platform for hardware, clouds, and > containers that enables software developers and community members > to build tailored solutions for their users. > > Supporting external packagers drives the Four Foundations: Freedom, > Friends, Features, and First. I agree the change proposal should address those issues. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx