On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:25:49AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:25:29PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 12/10/20 7:21 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > >On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 08:01:31AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > >> > > >>I wonder: is it necessary to request a tag, or would just self-managed > > >>side-tag be enough? > > > > > >A releng made side-tag: > > >* has a specific name > > >* requires releng ticket to create > > >* requires releng to merge builds back in > > > > Also: > > > > * builds are merged directly to rawhide, no CI (broken stuff can be pushed in) > > > > >A self-managed side-tag: > > >* Easy to create, has random name > > >* Needs provenpackager or commit to all builds in tag to merge > > As noted by Mattia in the other part of the thread, bodhi 5.6.0 > removed this constraint... Indeed. I forgot that had landed. :) Thanks for noting it. > > > Also: > > > > * builds go trough bodhi, where they can be stuck on gating on > > tests that refuse to start or gating on tests that don't even exist, > > or gating on tests that reveal that one package is broken for > > (un)related reasons and block the entire update (is very tedious to > > work with with large updates) > > > > >Since trodgers isn't a provenpackager, probibly the releng one would be > > >best? But also I guess fixing and rebuilding the other packages will > > >need commit or provenpackager... > > > > Even for bumping the release a provenpackager will be needed. > > ... but that's still a very important point. Thomas (trodgers) is not > a proven packager. For a magnitude of this change, another change > owner who is a pp is simply required. It's a given that with ~170 > packages to rebuild, either a pp will be involved or things will go > very very slowly. Just opening PRs and asking nicely is not enough. Agreed. kevin
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