why not to allow pipes as sinks? Like "/dev/null". On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 8:29 PM Reindl Harald (privat) <harry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Am 24.11.20 um 20:26 schrieb Joël Krähemann: > > What I can do with my software `gsequencer` all on top of ALSA. > > gsequencer is on the same layer the PA/pipewire > case closed > > > * save or open Advanced Gtk+ Sequencer XML files with XPath support > > * add or remove audio engines with adjustable audio channels and pads > > * link channels with property dialog > > * output panel, mixer, drum and matrix sequencer, soft synth and audio > > file player > > * piano roll with basic notation editing supporting copy & paste > > * adjustable BPM > > * LADSPA, DSSI and Lv2 support > > * export to WAV, FLAC, OGG, MP3, MP4, MKV and WEBM > > * multiple sinks/sources like JACK, ALSA, OSSv4, Pulseaudio, WASAPI > > and Core-Audio > > * automation editor with automation control and hide them to bypass > > * waveform editor with one track per audio channel > > * MIDI instrument playback > > * Standard MIDI File import/export > > * envelope editor per step sequencer or instrument > > * OSC content format support and listening server using IPv4/IPv6 over UDP/TCP > > * AGS-OSC-OVER-XMLRPC with libsoup-2.4 builtin XML login module for > > basic HTTP authentication > > * tic based system default max sync-rate upto 1000 Hz > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 8:16 PM Reindl Harald (privat) <harry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Am 24.11.20 um 20:06 schrieb Joël Krähemann: > >>>> That being said, I have spoken to a few audio engineers, and basically > >>>> none of them use ALSA directly. They can't because ALSA doesn't > >>>> support mixing properly, among other things. Most of them use JACK or > >>>> PulseAudio, depending on their requirements. PipeWire is intended to > >>>> simplify the pro audio case while bringing those benefits to casual > >>>> audiophiles who use PulseAudio. > >>> > >>> I really doubt that you listen to youtube while creating music > >> > >> who is talking about YouTube? > > > > This was just an example if you want to mix something while doing > > audio production. > > > >> > >>> What do you want to mix? > >> > >> just hear different audio-sources at the same time? > >> > > > > In `gsequencer` you can even configure multiple sound cards for > > playback or capture. It actually works quite well. > > > >>> Might be for some exotic JACK setup > >> > >> what is exotic in the simple fact that one has running sound from > >> different sources no matter jackaudio or not? > >> > > > > Again, I am talking about producing things like songs or a screencast. > > > >> the problem with pure alsa is that typically *one* software claims the > >> audio device and that's it while in many workloads you just have running > >> more than one sioruce no matter if they are all muted except one or > >> really play at the same time > > > > You basically ignore my arguments on latency. > > > > Stop alienating me and mixing unrelated things ... > > > > This is your very own sight of things, you should broaden your > > spectrum. > > > > Further, you can mix it all in GSequencer in any way you want to. Like > > bundling different JACK sources. > > > > The low latency MIDI experience will burst your experience on top of > > ALSA. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx