On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 2:44 PM Tom Hughes via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 19/11/2020 19:25, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I mean, I'm an old fogey too, but at *some* point we do have to accept > > that new things can be actively better. > > True. > > > I honestly can see exactly zero downsides to using a Matrix setup as > > compared to using IRC, and a giant pile of upsides, starting with "I no > > longer need to dedicate a small portion of my brain to remembering how > > my IRC bouncer setup works and maintaining it". > > Well my experience when I looked at matrix desktop clients > before was that they needed more screen real estate to be > usable than IRC clients, which is certainly one downside and > probably a direct consequence of rich media support. > > There's also the fact that unless I can get it to talk to all > the same chat systems I have pidgin talking to I would need to > be running two clients instead of one. > > I am interested though, and did actually explore the idea of > running my own home server and what I could bridge it to (so > not that different to running my own bouncer now...) recently. > > Anyway I just looked at the three clients that were suggested > earlier - all three are using Qt which makes them virtually > unusable on a wayland/gnome desktop as far as I can see as the > resize handles are so small they're impossible to use. > > More amusingly one of them crashed as soon as I logged in and > a second went into a "your window is too small mode" as soon > as I resized it to match my IRC client. > > The third was better, but rendered the conversation in that > left/right style of SMS clients, which is horrible for a chat > room. > > No doubt there are others I can try... > The GNOME-based one is Fractal, which is not available in Fedora as of right now. That said, the Qt based ones are in way better shape than the GNOME one. And QGnomePlatform should make them work reasonably well... -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx