On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:27 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:32:07PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > Moreover, *all* Fedora variants use NetworkManager. *ALL* OSTree > > > (rpm)ostree variants are Fedora variants - please don't using phrasing implying otherwise. > > > IOW you just say: *all* Fedora variants use NetworkManager. > > They are not the same. Regular Fedora is considerably more > > customizable post-installation than OSTree-based variants. That's why > > I made that point. > > "All Fedora variants, both with ostree and without..." maybe? OSTree-based > variants are also "regular Fedora". > I would only even remotely consider agreeing with that premise for Silverblue. Neither Fedora CoreOS nor Fedora IoT qualify for that, in my view, since they completely sidestep the normal release engineering process, don't use the same repositories, and have the power to include and exclude packages from the total available package set at their leisure. There is no expectation with those variants that anything you do will necessarily show up there. Heck, Fedora CoreOS is reverting a system-wide change in its variant (SQLite rpmdb), and had previously also reverted another one (cgroup v2). The merits of those changes aside, this makes the experience materially different than everything else we have. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx