On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:52 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:03:39AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > An other more generic approach which has been brought up once or > > twice, but which not really has been discussed in much detail yet > > I believe is creating a fedora-builddep repository. > > > > ATM a normal user has 3 ursine Fedora repos installed: > > > > fedora > > fedora-updates > > fedora-updates-testing (disabled by default) > > > > What if we add a 4th repo called fedora-builddep: > > > > fedora > > fedora-updates > > fedora-updates-testing (disabled by default) > > fedora-builddep (rolling (within a release), disabled by default) > > > > So the idea is that all the maven deps which you need, but > > do not want to offer any end-user support on would go to > > fedora-builddep. > > If we absolutely must have build-only packages, we can do it more simply: > insert > Requires: fedora-unmaintained-package > or > Requires: fedora-buildonly-package > (name TBD), and beef up dnf a bit to explain that "this package cannot > be installed because it's only maintained at the level appropriate for > building packages...". I think there are two advantages: first, no need > for a separate repo, so there'll be less infra change and churn. Second, > this tag can easily set on each subrpm, without any central list to manage. I'm not sure making things available only at build-time is going to help things. It's just "Modularity under a different name" ... Most Java packages are either directly or indirectly depended on by non-build-tool packages as well. You'd be surprised. Most of the distro directly or indirectly depends on the Java stack already - including the libvirt stack, libreoffice, some GNOME components, KDE components, etc. So most of those Java packages can't be built-time-only packages because they're actually required at runtime. The number of packages that are *really only ever needed to build other RPM packages and for no other reasons* is rather small. Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
