On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:27 PM Silvia Sánchez <bhkohane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ondrej, > > You need to install Kwin Wayland and another package that will provide the backend. It seems all the necessary packages were pulled in as dependencies via plasma-workspace-wayland. $ sudo dnf info --installed *wayland* | grep Name Name : kf5-kwayland Name : kwayland-integration Name : kwin-wayland Name : libwayland-client Name : libwayland-client Name : libwayland-cursor Name : libwayland-cursor Name : libwayland-egl Name : libwayland-egl Name : libwayland-server Name : libwayland-server Name : plasma-workspace-wayland Name : qt5-qtwayland Name : qt5-qtwayland-devel Name : xorg-x11-server-Xwayland Looking at the available but not installed packages that match *wayland* I don't see any that would be relevant. > My experience wasn't the best, several apps crashed, effects stuttered or were very slow, even typing felt slower. But at least my desktop looked normal. > One comment: the logging out issue is not because of Wayland. I have the same with Xorg, and there are several bug reports pointing to the same issue. Oh, thanks for the info! So I guess the only Wayland issue for me so far is the messed up resolution/screen settings. Once I get past that I'll probably see the "normal" known issues, too :) > > Kind regards, > Lailah > > > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 12:24, Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:30 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefaultForPlasma >> > >> > == Summary == >> > Change the default session selection in SDDM to prefer the >> > Wayland-based KDE Plasma Desktop session over the X11-based one. >> > >> > == Owner == >> > * Name: [[User:Ngompa|Neal Gompa]], [[User:Rdieter|Rex Dieter]], >> > [[User:Jgrulich|Jan Grulich]] >> > * Email: ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx, rdieter@xxxxxxxxx, jgrulich@xxxxxxxxxx >> > * Product: KDE Spin >> > * Responsible WG: KDE SIG >> > >> > >> > == Detailed Description == >> > >> > With KDE Plasma 5.20, the KDE Plasma desktop environment has reached a >> > point where nearly all commonly used features in the desktop and all >> > major applications function in the Plasma Wayland environment on all >> > major GPUs (including NVIDIA with the proprietary driver). Starting >> > with Plasma 5.20 in Fedora 34, we will change the default >> > configuration for Wayland and X11 Plasma sessions so that Wayland is >> > preferred and used by default, while permitting the X11 session to be >> > selected as the alternative desktop environment option. >> > >> > == Feedback == >> > >> > ==== Is Wayland ready? ==== >> > Wayland has been used by default for Fedora Workstation (which uses >> > GNOME) since Fedora 25. And while it was somewhat immature initially, >> > today it is a very rock-solid experience on virtually everything >> > Fedora Workstation runs on. The change in Fedora 25 kickstarted the >> > drive to get everything working on Wayland, and the Workstation team >> > succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Firefox has been Wayland-native >> > by default since Fedora 31 as well. >> > >> > On the KDE side, serious work into supporting Wayland started shortly >> > after GNOME switched to Wayland by default. Unlike GNOME, KDE has a >> > much broader stack in its toolkit, and it has taken longer to get to a >> > usable state. With the Plasma 5.20 release, the Wayland protocol for >> > screencasting as well as middle-click paste finally are supported, >> > completing the required feature set for switching to Wayland by >> > default. >> >> So yesterday I tried to log in to the KDE Plasma + Wayland session on >> my laptop (F32) and the experience was unfortunately quite horrible... >> >> 1. When I logged out of the X session, switched to Wayland on the >> login screen, and logged in, I only got a black screen. After I >> rebooted, I managed to login to the Wayland session (I have automatic >> login after boot enabled), but... >> 2. The desktop was all squeezed into a small 1024x786 rectangle in the >> upper left corner of the screen (my screen is 1920x1080). So I opened >> system settings to change the resolution, but... >> 3. The screen settings were showing "manufacturer_TODO" and >> "model_TODO" as the name of the screen and the only resolution offered >> was 1024x786. >> 4. The window layout of my KDE session was not preserved (I think even >> the distribution of windows to activities was lost). But I probably >> shouldn't expect this to work... >> 5. Logging out of the Wayland session gave me just a black screen with >> blinking cursor, no login screen. >> >> Reading the other posts in this thread it seems I'm the only one >> experiencing such serious breakage (maybe except 4., which is >> understandable), so I'm wondering if I did something wrong... I simply >> installed plasma-workspace-wayland, logged out, and then logged in >> selecting "Plasma (Wayland) (Wayland)" from the session dropdown. >> >> -- >> Ondrej Mosnacek >> Software Engineer, Platform Security - SELinux kernel >> Red Hat, Inc. >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Ondrej Mosnacek Software Engineer, Platform Security - SELinux kernel Red Hat, Inc. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
