Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

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Guido Aulisi wrote:
> IMHO we could package only the JDK and let the user use Java software directly from upstream.
> Usually upstream means Apache, which is a trusted source, and Java users are smart enough to manage the Java packages.
> I usuali do so when using maven, hadoop, tomcat, etc.
> I think this solution could be valid for any other language, like php, python: packaging only the base language and anything that is not available in executable formats.

And how well does that scale?

As a sysadmin I don't normally need to know what language each program
is written in. I use language-specific tools only on programs I'm
developing, not on programs I merely use. Should I periodically run
cpan to check for Perl program updates, pip to check for Python program
updates, npm to check for Javascript program updates, gem to check for
Ruby program updates, and so on and so forth? And then manually check a
bunch of individual upstream websites for updates to programs that
aren't in those language-specific repositories either? No way! I run
"yum update" and get *all* the updates for my system.

Björn Persson

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